The experiences I have in sales is I was a door-to-door as well as a call, on-boarding calls. I opened and closed sales, I was sales account manager. That wasn't from straight entry-level, I worked my way up to HEC sales manager, sales account manager. I opened and closed sales, I, of course, like I said, door-to-door for a couple of years of that, and then also did counter sales as well.