Yes, first of all, I think just the fact that we get to talk to people on a day-to-day basis and get to help them, I think it definitely helps when you're a little bit personable and you have a rapport with someone. And for myself, actually, I feel like I can do that pretty easily as far as dealing with different types of people of all ages. So that's one thing, definitely. Things I know at church can sometimes seem complicated to people. I know it does for my dad, who's a bit older, in his 50s and getting close to 60 now. So I think just also the fact that you're helping people out and you're doing it and you're explaining to them to make it simpler for them as well. And just the ability to work. I've found that insurance offices, mostly, at least the people that I know that work in them, it's a very, I would say, not carefree, but it's sort of a happy environment. Everybody's getting along. Everybody's kind of helping each other out, even though there's always going to be competition in any job setting. But just the fact that it seems like also a fun place to work at.