My experience in sales, I've started actually over about 15 years ago, I was in automotive sales. In that case, I was promoted to management and then into finance. After the transition back to sales, I was actually in broker sales, selling commodities like gold and silver. And then almost my most recent experience was being in phone sales, actually was for a retailer for Verizon. But that was involved communication devices, telephones and also calling plans. And that was actually contact face to face contact along with the eight years that I spent in automotive sales, which was also face to face contact. But the the broker sales agent position was actually telephonic. So I basically have experience in both aspects of the sales industry.