I've actually always liked insurance. I started doing it I think back in 2017 2018 and what really set it off is I got regular PNC then found out I had commercial and what ended up happening was I really thrived in my commercial sales and I just like the intricate numbers I like to be able to like break something down for people I like that's why I like policy reviews as I like explaining coverages so that they understand it I just like the aha moments that people get when they learn something new and it's actually explained to them