I had a position at Cottie College where I coordinated donations and that kind of introduced me to the telephone sales, kind of cold calling people when they're in the middle of their workday or they're eating dinner with their family and just kind of how to get your foot into the door there and it definitely was an eye-opening experience. So I'm definitely comfortable cold calling and kind of getting my foot in the door there. I was ranked the number one caller at my donation center at Cottie College and I loved it. I love talking to people, getting to know people, and getting to just learn more about them and so that's a bit of my telephone sales background.