When I am not working, I enjoy doing literally anything outside. So going on trails, going hiking, going to concerts, just my youngest daughter, she loves being outside, no shoes, going to the lake, camping, literally anything to do with nature. And then other than that, something that allows me to use my creativity. So I've been really into revamping old furniture, doing artwork, painting, drawing, just anything that's in that realm. Other than that, I enjoy playing music. I played the clarinet for 15 years. But really just spending time with my family and being outside.