Hello, James Owens here. I got my experience in sales. It was in 2005. I started with a yellow page company and a phone book company selling yellow page ads and I had to do business to business sales and I had to do phone appointment sales. So that's good. And I took a two week crash course in sales there and then ongoing training throughout the 10 years I was there. So that's where that, uh, I got that experience there for about 10 years. And then I moved into banking, which had a sales side to it as well. So I did banking and as a banker, I had a sales side, like goal was to meet with credit cards, loans, and that sort of thing. So altogether combined, I have about 20 plus years in sales. So that's where I got my sales experience. Thank you.