I never really had managers, probably more mentors. I'm pretty self-motivated. I don't really need the rah-rah, but if anything, just by doing, just by watching, didn't have to say anything, but just how things were done. And when I ran my company in real estate, I learned on the fly, so I didn't know much, but I learned real fast, better than any school. So just watching how they did stuff and how they handled certain situations. And sometimes the path of least resistance is best. Sometimes you gotta put a little bit more, depending on the situation. So that's what I kind of observed.