Well, my current position, and I held that with eight different companies, it was a non-captive position. So when you see that I both have combined a job company and voluntary solutions, they did run at the same time. Both actually had similar requirements as far as what we were supposed to produce every single month or quarter. The goal was every quarter to bring in at least a business of at least 15 people. And for combined, it was to bring in at least 15 people. It was pretty much a lot easier to do with residential and personal sales for the 15 people. And then on the voluntary solution side, that was just a business with 15 people. Denver Metro area of Colorado was pretty strong and reliable to get that. Every quarter I was always able to hit by numbers. You always get the hiccups at the worst time. And I was always able to exceed them. So that was never a thing that I've ever had an issue with.